SOO 2006: Game Two; Queensland vs New South Wales

[Queenslander]

Game Two: Queensland http://www.qrl.com.au/images/qld.gif http://www.qrl.com.au/images/q_cup/teams/vs.gif New South Wales http://www.qrl.com.au/images/nsw.gif
Wednesday, 14th June 2006; 8:00pm
Suncorp Stadium / Lang Park; Brisbane

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Game Notes:

Referee: Steve Clark
Touch Judges: Rod Lawrence and Russell Turner
Video Referee: Graeme West
Stand by Referee: Sean Hampstead

Game Wins This Series: NSW 1 - QLD 0

Queensland Maroons:
Debut Players - Karmichael Hunt, Adam Mogg, Jacob Lillyman
5/6/06 - Hunt will start at fullback in the clash against New South Wales at Suncorp Stadium on June 14, with the inclusion of Tonie Carroll and Chris Flannery the only other changes to the squad.
6/6/06 - Adam Mogg replaces Greg Inglis
7/6/06 - Jacob Lillyman replaces Tonie Carroll

New South Wales Blues:
5/6/06 - NSW selectors made just one forced change for next Wednesday night's second State of Origin match with St George Illawarra prop Luke Bailey called in to replace injured Luke O'Donnell.
11/5/06 - ST George Illawarra centre Matt Cooper was today called into the New South Wales State of Origin squad as an 18th man.



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Teams:

Queensland Maroons:

1. Karmichael Hunt
2. Brent Tate
3. Justin Hodges
4. Steven Bell
5. Adam Mogg (For Greg Inglis)
6. Darren Lockyer (c)
7. Johnathan Thurston
8. Steve Price
9.Cameron Smith
10. Petero Civoniceva
11. Jacob Lillyman (For Tonie Carroll)
12. Carl Webb
13. Dallas Johnson

Interchange:

14. Shaun Berrigan
15. Chris Flannery
16. Sam Thaiday
17. Nate Myles

Coach: Mal Meninga
Assistant Coaches: Neil Henry and Kevin Walters
Trainer: Billy Johnstone


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New South Wales Blues:

1. Brett Hodgson
2. Matt King
3. Mark Gasnier
4. Timana Tahu
5. Eric Grothe
6. Braith Anasta
7. Brett Finch
8. Willie Mason
9. Danny Buderus (c)
10. Brent Kite
11. Steve Simpson
12. Nathan Hindmarsh
13. Andrew Ryan

Interchange:

14: Luke Bailey
15. Mark O'Meley
16. Steve Menzies
17. Craig Wing

Standby Player: Matt Cooper

Coach: Graham Murray

[Queenslander]

I know I am starting this thread early but I can't wait for this game!!!!! Revenge will be soon :thumbsup:

Go Queensland

[qld power]

me either and i will be there for my 2nd and first origin at the home of league at suncorp stadium

[[BroncosGirl]]

I soooooooooooo cannot wait!! :) The atmosphere is going to be awesome!! Im in corperate, how cool am I lol!!!

[qld power]

asks to marry broncosgirl lol

[~Wild Child~]

I know I am starting this thread early but I can't wait for this game!!!!! Revenge will be soon :thumbsup:

Go QueenslandRevenge will also be sweet ...I can't wait either... :D ;)
Q ueenslander....my computer censored your post. :dizzy: lol

[DeeGan]

This game is huge, we all know that and if we (QLD) cannot muster some ticker up front from the kick off against the Blues (who will add Bailey to a already dominant pack) - we are in for a world of hurt.

My QLD side would be; Hunt, Inglis, Bell, Tate, Slater, Lockyer, Thurston, Tronc, Smith, Civoniceva, Price, Webb, Carroll Res. Bowen, Stagg, Scott & Shillington

Fullback is the big one, as much as I love seeing Bowen in the one, I conceed, he does not look like the 80 minute player he is at NRL level. Yes, he is behind forward packs being dominated, though unfortunately that is the nature of the beast. I really want to move Inglis to the fullback position given I think that right now, he is arguable the best player in that position when looking at club form in the NRL. I lean towards Hunt given I was impressed with how he handled the Test match and his form and combination with Lockyer will be a positive. Hunt should not be selected on the wing.

Lockyer doesn't want to play fullback, I don't think he will despite Mal preferring the move for his star player. Don't get me wrong, a player should play where selected and where the coach sees as best for the team, though being removed from the fullback position since the end of the 2003 season is too big a ask for anyone, even the greatest fullback of the modern era in Lockyer. If he is forced back there, he will do a fine job either way, he is just too classy a player. My preference is to keep him in the 6 jersey.

The backline pretty much picks itself, I would add Slater given we are short of wingers at the moment. Alot will depend on how he goes tonight vs Sydney.

I have looked to add some size to the forward pack. In comes Tronc, Carroll and Shillington.

Queensland were out muscled in game one, I think we need to start with a big pack to counter Mason, O'Meley, Bailey, Kite and co. which is why I push Price to the back row with Webb (who will be picked on reputation in the hope he can fire at home).

Tonie Carroll I would not have entertained as a Origin player this year though his club form is good and he does give us a reknown hit man who will rattle the big forward of NSW.

David Shillington is an impressive player and I bring in the big fella as the third prop.

Matt Bowen is our impact player from the bench and David Stagg may be lucky to hold on to a spot in the 17. I think he will see competition from Flannery to be honest.

As for the NSW side - meh :laugh: I know this, Luke Bailey will come in to the side which is only bad news for QLD - when fit, there is no better prop in the game. The forwards if they get through this weekend will be the same as last time minus O'Donnell and the backline will not see any changes for mine. I think Tahu and Grothe should stay as is, they were great in game one.

[qld power]

queenslander my mate u heard of any public appearances by any of the teams nothing has been on qrl.com yet

[Queenslander]

queenslander my mate u heard of any public appearances by any of the teams nothing has been on qrl.com yet

As soon as I hear anything I will post it here:

http://www.titans.com.au//forum/showthread.php?t=3632

[Meatcleaver]

Was and still am in Germany for the State of Origin (except for g3). Could not find anywhere to watch the game and had no internet. 17-16 when I finally checked the result..... got a few strange lots in the internet cafe when shouting out a few words!!. Lets just hope Qld can get fired up for g2. If the forwards can match it, I'm sure Thurston will start to run the show given enough ball - plus Lockyer to make some magic is well. All boils down to the forwards!!. lets hope for g3 if we draw the series we have the Melboure crowd well on our side!.

Cant wait to get back to watch the games live.... no idea what its like not to be able to see it!!!!.

[Super Cronk]

NSW team just named and has been added to the first post.

[[BroncosGirl]]

Woooot! finchy is still playing :D!!!! Typical team though, cna't wait till ours is named!!!

[HodgoBerro]

BG likes finchy - i think that sig of all the teeth is the best impression so far?!

[[BroncosGirl]]

BG likes finchy - i think that sig of all the teeth is the best impression so far?!

Haha the sig on the BHQ? C'mon all profile photos are bad :p

Not long now!!!! *crosses fingers for a good team*!!

[HodgoBerro]

hurry up i can't bite more nails off

[Super Cronk]

QLd side now up.

[[BroncosGirl]]

I love that side. But Hodgo and TC are injured arent they? Whats doing?!!

[Super Cronk]

Carroll is subject to fitness tests. I would imagine the same for any other player that was injured last week.

[[BroncosGirl]]

Well it'll suck if he doesn't pass as fit, then theres interuptions. I hope they are fit.

[HodgoBerro]

i saw hodgo on friday and he said he'd be at least another week away (he did say 2 weeks but since its the next week - a week)

maybe it in their ploy to disrupt the sessions like NSW did last game...

[s_s_s]

I have a few questions on a couple of players
but the team looks good

[[BroncosGirl]]

I have a few questions on a couple of players
but the team looks good

Which players?!

[Go_The_Doggies]

Hunt??

Soo not happy..he was never ment to play origin :mad:

Ohwell...hope he has a **** game but Queensland still win :satan:

[[BroncosGirl]]

Hunt??

Soo not happy..he was never ment to play origin :mad:

Ohwell...hope he has a **** game but Queensland still win :satan:

Dont be like that Kimmeh! :( hehe.!

[Teegy]

i wouldn't have had hunt at FB. if not locky then Inglis. Tate shouldn't be their. and Bowen should be coming of the bench. flannery should start over webb cause hes better as a impact player aswell. actually im very disapointed in the QLD selectors

[Super Cronk]

LOL...Hunt at fullback? now thats funny.

[Go_The_Doggies]

']Dont be like that Kimmeh! :( hehe.!
I cant help the way i feel about that human being :curse: :p

[Social Loafer]

Tate??
Hunt at Fullback??
Carroll????

Goes to show playing for Brisbane really helps your chances, you got 2 kiwis and a bloke who has hardly played this year..

ah well, clean sweep here we come :clap:

[[BroncosGirl]]

Tate??
Hunt at Fullback??
Carroll????

Goes to show playing for Brisbane really helps your chances, you got 2 kiwis and a bloke who has hardly played this year..

ah well, clean sweep here we come :clap:

Oh ffs get over this Broncos crap. Bennett even said last time he was surprised some of his players got chosen.
Caroll and Hunt have been in good form, fullstop.
Tate is the one to question, but thats Mals choice and the selectors, not the Broncos;)!

[Go_The_Doggies]

Lets just rename the Queensland team the "i dont wanna play for my own country" maroons lol :p

[[BroncosGirl]]

Lets just rename the Queensland team the "i dont wanna play for my own country" maroons lol :p

Hahaha :mad: ... Ppfft its like 2 players, who are originally from NZ. At leastHunt never actually played for NZ, he said no out right and stuck to being an aussie.

[Go_The_Doggies]

']Hahaha :mad: ... Ppfft its like 2 players, who are originally from NZ. At leastHunt never actually played for NZ, he said no out right and stuck to being an aussie.
Thats true...Tonie Caroll is just a plain idiot :D .. i dont know how he could do it tbh..but anywhoo..this is about S.O.O and how Queensland shall win :fence:

[[BroncosGirl]]

Thats true...Tonie Caroll is just a plain idiot :D .. i dont know how he could do it tbh..but anywhoo..this is about S.O.O and how Queensland shall win :fence:


Yeah QLD all the way !!! :guit:

[Titanium_BD1103]

No offense to QLD... but that side is worse than the one chosen for the first game... the only positive I can see is in Carroll... :laugh:

I can't believe Inglis is not Fullback, Hodges is injured and Bowen is out??... he would be the spark Queensland need on the bench...

If I was a Queensland supporter I would not be overly convinced by that side... but at Suncorp... no one knows what might happen, but on paper... that side is headed for another defeat at the hands of the mighty BLUES... :D :D

[Flanker/5-8]

1. Karmichael Hunt
6. Darren Lockyer (c)

We are going to be destroyed, 50-0.

[Steelers]

I agree BT..... I am regretting signing up for the avatar and signature bet now :(

[[BroncosGirl]]

Bowens size wwas to questionable to be FB, however yes he could have been on the bench, BUT Berrigan was pretty good in game 1.

Hodges may be injured, but it gives QLD time to work out their backline. Carroll is also unlikely to play.

Hunt as a choice of FB is the best decision imo. He links well with Locky, plus he uses his wingers well.

[DeeGan]

Well I had Hunt coming in to the side for Bowen who I moved to the bench - I said after game one that he may have played his way out of an Origin jumper, looks like that unfortunately has come true.

I could not believe Hunt's name being read out to replace Minichiello in the Test match though he came through with flying colours and only enhanced his reputation for mine. If you have watched all Brisbane games in 2006 you would not be able to fault his form either, he has been great for Brisbane and his combination with Lockyer went along way to getting a maroon jersey. He will do well.

I like the look of the side, I don't see Hodges playing and if he is ruled out it is likely that Berrigan moves to centre and Bowen might come in as the bench player.

It irks me to see the selectors NOW move Bell to the centres, WHY he wasn't there originally I will never know. We made the right move one game too late.

I would of liked to see Shillington or Scott on the bench in place of Myles, I think we need a bit more size to the bench to combat the Blues personally.

Overall not bad at all, I think we will go well at home - BRING ON GAME TWO!

[Super Cronk]

Inglis has been ruled out of the SOO 2 game.

ABC.net.au

The team also includes Storm winger Greg Inglis, despite medical experts all but ruling him out because of a back injury.

Inglis has a stress fracture and his club Melbourne said he would be sidelined for at least two weeks.

Storm physiotherapist Mary Toomey said she has told Maroons officials that there was no point in flying Inglis to Brisbane for Wednesday's medicals.

"I think once you have established the diagnosis, there's not really any point of discussion whether he should or should not play," she said.

"The correct thing to do is to give him time off.

"So I would think they would be happy with that but I'm just waiting for them to confirm it."

[Teegy]

Inglis has been ruled out of the SOO 2 game.

ABC.net.au
that suks. now who will be the new winger

[[BroncosGirl]]

Bell to wing, Berro in centres, Bowen on Bench?! Or Tate to wing, Berro to centre, Bowen on bench. Maybe? I dont know!!! Its such a pity!

[Teegy]

no you couldnt put Bell to wing. id move hodges before bell

[Super Cronk]

Sure is a pity for Inglis...not sure what they will do but i dont want to see Bell moved to wing.

[Kallan]

']Bell to wing, Berro in centres, Bowen on Bench?! Or Tate to wing, Berro to centre, Bowen on bench. Maybe? I dont know!!! Its such a pity!

Tate is already on the wing isn't he?

Wesser may be brought in to the wing. I am in favour of hodges (we don't even know if he is going to play) or bell to wing and Berrigan to centre and bowen on bench.

[[BroncosGirl]]

Tate is already on the wing isn't he?

Wesser may be brought in to the wing. I am in favour of hodges (we don't even know if he is going to play) or bell to wing and Berrigan to centre and bowen on bench.

Sorry for some reasonI have tate in my head in centres, because HOdges wasn't likely to play.

Ok then IF hodges does play, with Inglis out, Berrigan to centres with Bell on wing. OR, shif or something maybe. I dont rate Wesser at all.

Id move Bell before Hodges to wing, Hodges is a centre, thats it, Bell can play wing though, and Hunt is the type of FB to involve his wingers more.

[Teegy]

']Id move Bell before Hodges to wing, Hodges is a centre, thats it, Bell can play wing though, and Hunt is the type of FB to involve his wingers more.

i think you would find Hodges is a more experianced winger than Bell. first time hes played on wing in the last 3yrs was last origin

[[BroncosGirl]]

i think you would find Hodges is a more experianced winger than Bell. first time hes played on wing in the last 3yrs was last origin

Yeah and look how well they went :roll:

He is a much better centre then winger, and he was our best Origin 1, in the CENTRE position, why should he be punished and moved to the wing. He doesn't go well there in Origin. Plus he knows how to link up with Locky adn Hunt through the centre position which would be a bonus for QLD.

[Teegy]

']Yeah and look how well they went :roll:

He is a much better centre then winger, and he was our best Origin 1, in the CENTRE position, why should he be punished and moved to the wing. He doesn't go well there in Origin. Plus he knows how to link up with Locky adn Hunt through the centre position which would be a bonus for QLD.
i dont think you read my post right? basically i was meaning to say hodges to wing bell to centre

[[BroncosGirl]]

i dont think you read my post right? basically i was meaning to say hodges to wing bell to centre

Yes... and Im saying that'd be a bad idea, considering Hodges is such a gun player at Centre. And that hodges past experiences at wing position haven't been that great. Why move the form centre in the game!!

[Teegy]

form centre is debatable. bell scored just as many tries if not more and has defended better IMO

[[BroncosGirl]]

form centre is debatable. bell scored just as many tries if not more and has defended better IMO

Ok, I wont talk about form centre then. Ill talk about Origin, Hodges was our best player, why move him from a position we know he'll carve up in. Especially when bell is capable of playing on the wing position at origin level and Hodges has struggled there in the past.

[Teegy]

']Ok, I wont talk about form centre then. Ill talk about Origin, Hodges was our best player, why move him from a position we know he'll carve up in. Especially when bell is capable of playing on the wing position at origin level and Hodges has struggled there in the past.
because he is under a injury cloud and may benifit from less defencive work

[Chaos]

I'm 90% sure we are going to get an absolute flogging.

Their forwards are stronger, their backs are stronger and their bench will impack in a way that will dominate the ruck.

The only chance is in the halves but we have a fullback playing 5/8 and a 5/8 playing half back.
Anasta is a lock playing 5/8 but still has a great kicking game and thats all he has to do.
I can't see our forwards holding the NSW pack...no way...we're f^cked

Buderus will have the time of his life!

[[BroncosGirl]]

because he is under a injury cloud and may benifit from less defencive work

If Hodges is not right to play, he wont play, if he is, he should be centre. If they thought hes not right, he shouldnt be playing in any position.

[Supergoose]

I thought that Myles was excellent in the first game and was the right player to be retained although I would've like to see a bigger bopper in Tronc or Shillington get a run in place of Thaiday or Price. I reckon we will go with Wesser on the wing in place of Inglis. This wing shortage is somewhat of crisis.

If Hodges is ruled out then Bowen will get a reprieve on the bench as Berrigan will come into the centres. I wouldn't mind seeing Bowen at fullback with Hunt and Wesser on the wings with Tate moved into the centres and Berrigan to stay on the bench where he can fill in anywhere. I reckon Hunt would be an excellent winger and gives a bit of size to the postion although you would lose the Lockyer combination a bit. Too bad Craig Frawley hasn't played a bit more and shown some form because I reckon he would be the answer to the wing problems and I would prefer him to Wesser. Still a chance I guess.

Can't stand Flannery and he is a pus SOO player. Personally would;ve stuck with Scott on that one or brought in Corey Parker who has been excellent this season (may get a chance if Carrol is ruled out). Still reckon Qld can win this but will rely on the forwards laying a platform for Thurston and Lockyer to play off.

[Dakink]

bigger bopper in Tronc or Shillington get a run in place of Thaiday

Do they come any bigger than Thaiday?

I thought he went will in his limited time in game 1, I was more concerned with Mals use of the bench in the first game.

[Teegy]

Do they come any bigger than Thaiday?

I thought he went will in his limited time in game 1, I was more concerned with Mals use of the bench in the first game.
Thaidays proberly just as big. Troncs a front rower and shillington might have been unlucky but atleast Thiaday can cover 2nd row and front row. and if we are looking for a good replacement for the wing id go with Clinton Shifcofske. been there and played well. also he is a very good playmaker

[Super Cronk]

tronc is huge...They need someone like him to take on Mason.

[Dakink]

Just in;


Clark refs Origin II
June 6, 2006

STEVE Clark has been appointed referee for the second State of Origin match at Suncorp Stadium tomorrow week.

He replaces Sean Hampstead, who controlled the opening game of the series and will be the stand-by referee.

Rod Lawrence and Russell Turner have been appointed as touch judges, with Graeme West the video referee.


It will be Clarke's fourth time in control of an Origin game.

AAP

[Teegy]

how can the 2nd worse ref be appointed to ref the game. things go from bad to worse

[Super Cronk]

how can the 2nd worse ref be appointed to ref the game. things go from bad to worse

I was thinking the same thing. Clark is awful. And plus i thought QLD refused to have him as ref?

[[BroncosGirl]]

I was thinking the same thing. Clark is awful. And plus i thought QLD refused to have him as ref?

Probably, but that doesnt mean jack all :nope:

[Titanium_BD1103]

I was thinking the same thing. Clark is awful. And plus i thought QLD refused to have him as ref?

Well QLD got him out of the game for Game 1 Nikki.... they could have done it again.. but I think Hampstead is going just as well as Clark ATM.. :(

Well they didn't have much a choice now did they... Archer wasn't flash on the weekend and Hampstead had a shocker on Friday night... not to mention his performance at Penrith in the Video Box on Sunday... if that was no a double movement that he gave a try to Manly... then I am the King of England... :laugh: :laugh:

I think the way things went... Clark was the only real choice... too bad things are the way they are that there was nothing better... :(

[[BroncosGirl]]

Well QLD got him out of the game for Game 1 Nikki.... they could have done it again.. but I think Hampstead is going just as well as Clark ATM.. :(

Well they didn't have much a choice now did they... Archer wasn't flash on the weekend and Hampstead had a shocker on Friday night... not to mention his performance at Penrith in the Video Box on Sunday... if that was no a double movement that he gave a try to Manly... then I am the King of England... :laugh: :laugh:

I think the way things went... Clark was the only real choice... too bad things are the way they are that there was nothing better... :(

Haha we did? .. When you put it like that, there isnt much choices is there? .. but c'mon whats wrong with Shane Hayne :D :p

[Titanium_BD1103]

Yeah you did... I heard them talking about it on Teegy's recommended show... Talking Sport when I was driving home last Thursday... :)

Yep Shayne Hayne could have done it.. except for the fact that he... like all the other referees have stopped blowing penalities... :D :D

[[BroncosGirl]]

Yeah you did... I heard them talking about it on Teegy's recommended show... Talking Sport when I was driving home last Thursday... :)

Yep Shayne Hayne could have done it.. except for the fact that he... like all the other referees have stopped blowing penalities... :D :D

... I hate Hayne :box: .... So yea not many options do we have Its kind of sad really :(, whowever refs teh game will probably get given a gobful no matter what.

[Queenslander]

I will tell Jack where to shove his cream puffs. :emp:

Qld Origin pack 'cream puffs': Jack
Tuesday, June 6, 2006 - 4:55 PM

Former Test and NSW fullback Garry Jack has lit the fuse for an explosive State of Origin game two by labelling Queensland's forwards "cream puffs" and declaring Maroons selectors wrong to drop Matt Bowen.

Jack, who played 17 Origins for the Blues, also said skipper Darren Lockyer's best days were behind him.

The stinging critique is certain to fire up the deflated Maroons, who must win the return match at a sold-out Suncorp Stadium on June 14 in order to keep the series alive.

Jack described Queensland's forward pack - which contained five rookies in game one - as a "joke" after they were trampled by the Blues in the opening half.

"The problem with the (Maroons) pack was that they played like cream puffs," Jack said.

"They were a joke. There was no aggression and that was where they lost it. The blokes they picked weren't up to it.

"They just played like strangers.

"They all get together and talk about the passion and the 80s. They bring in Wally (Lewis), Mal (Meninga) and Gilly (Trevor Gillmeister) but they're not the ones who have to aim up.

"There's got to be another Sam Backo or Gorden Tallis up here because the cupboard's bare at the moment.

"They've got to have it up front. Petero Civoniceva and Steve Price are both hard and clean but no-one's going to get hurt up there."

Jack questioned the Maroons' decision to drop Bowen in favour of Brisbane and Australian custodian Karmichael Hunt, claiming it could lead to more errors.

Queensland selectors pin-pointed Bowen's questionable ability under the high ball and lack of size as major concerns.

But Jack said Hunt could be just as fallible under the high ball.

In the Broncos' round four NRL clash against St George Illawarra, Hunt was exposed by Dragons five-eighth Trent Barrett's boot, with the Kangaroos fullback enduring a horror night.

"Hunt will make more errors than Bowen would," Jack said.

"He (Bowen) is the best broken field runner in the game without doubt. He's a threat for the entire game, especially when the other team loses concentration.

"He's a match winner. They didn't lose because of him."

Jack stressed that none of NSW's three tries in the series opener came from kicks.

He also claimed Lockyer's best was behind him.

"In last year's State of Origin he was ordinary," Jack said.

"He's trying but does he have the same impact or is it behind him? I'd say it's behind him."

Jack stressed the Maroons would have been better served to move Lockyer to fullback in order to pair Johnathan Thurston with Wests Tigers halfback Scott Prince.

Bowen's axing from the Queensland squad after nine successive Origin matches was still being felt around the Cowboys' clubhouse.

North Queensland chief executive Peter Parr said: "Matthew's very popular among the players and the staff here so I think everyone's disappointed for him.

"I didn't think he did enough to warrant being dropped."

The Queensland camp remains in disarray after winger Greg Inglis - one of the Maroons' best in game one - was ruled out with a stress fracture in his back.

Hitman Tonie Carroll (knee) and centre Justin Hodges (hamstring) are also under injury clouds.

Source: AAP

[[BroncosGirl]]

Oh My God...

http://www.qrl.com.au/display.php?pg_id=1855

[Queenslander]

']Oh My God...

http://www.qrl.com.au/display.php?pg_id=1855

CALOUNDRA junior Adam Mogg has been called into the XXXX Queensland Maroons team for State of Origin II, replacing injured winger Greg Inglis.

A member of the Canberra Raiders NRL club, 28-year-old Mogg will join the squad when it enters camp in Brisbane on Wednesday morning.

Mogg has a thorough Queensland Rugby League background, having featured for the Redcliffe Dolphins in four Queensland Wizard Cup grand finals, represented Queensland Residents and been a past winner of the Courier-Mail Best and Fairest Award.

The decision to omit Inglis comes after consultation between the medical staff of the XXXX Queensland Maroons and the Melbourne Storm.

Considering the nature of the injury (stress fracture of the lower back) and the advice of the Melbourne Storm, Queensland has decided against flying Inglis to Brisbane for further assessment.

It is understood he will be sidelined for a number of weeks due to the injury.

The XXXX Maroons will now have two debutants for the must-win clash against New South Wales at Suncorp Stadium on June 14, with Mogg to start alongside rookie fullback Karmichael Hunt.

[Supergoose]

Do they come any bigger than Thaiday?

I thought he went will in his limited time in game 1, I was more concerned with Mals use of the bench in the first game.

I reckon that Thaiday went well too, just that Tronc and Shillington whilst perhaps not as explosive have more minutes in them than Thaiday which will could be an issue again for the Qld forwards with Webb and Carroll starting in the 2nd row.

[Supergoose]

']Haha we did? .. When you put it like that, there isnt much choices is there? .. but c'mon whats wrong with Shane Hayne :D :p

Ask the Broncos players what they think of Hayne - they're flat out winning a game under his control (or lack thereof). I don't reckon the other Qld teams get much of a run in games he refs either! Not suggesting he's biased or anything, hang on a minute, yes I am, he's rubbish and doesn't know how to speak to players - not that Clark does.

[Kallan]

Ask the Broncos players what they think of Hayne - they're flat out winning a game under his control (or lack thereof). I don't reckon the other Qld teams get much of a run in games he refs either! Not suggesting he's biased or anything, hang on a minute, yes I am, he's rubbish and doesn't know how to speak to players - not that Clark does.

:lol!: I don't like Hayne whenever I see his name as the ref for a broncos game i am like - damn!

[[BroncosGirl]]

Ask the Broncos players what they think of Hayne - they're flat out winning a game under his control (or lack thereof). I don't reckon the other Qld teams get much of a run in games he refs either! Not suggesting he's biased or anything, hang on a minute, yes I am, he's rubbish and doesn't know how to speak to players - not that Clark does.

I was being sarcastic about Hayne :p
I dont like him as a ref either.!

[Queenslander]

Young Bull to Replace Veteran Carroll

FORMER Richmond rodeo rider Jacob 'Bull' Lillyman has jumped in the saddle for the XXXX Queensland Maroons, replacing injured forward Tonie Carroll.

The North Queensland Cowboys talent will make his interstate debut in the crucial second match of the Harvey Norman State of Origin series, to be played at Suncorp Stadium, Brisbane on Wednesday, June 14.

Lillyman is a former Australian Schoolboys (2002) and Queensland Under 19s (2003) representative.

The 22-year-old replaces one of Queensland’s most experienced campaigners, Carroll, who was ruled out late Tuesday evening with a knee injury.

This follows winger Adam Mogg’s late call-up in the place of injured Greg Inglis.

Lillyman and Mogg will be joined in the XXXX Maroons camp in Brisbane this morning by fellow debutant Karmichael Hunt.

www.qrl.com.au

[Teegy]

another bad move by the QLDers. surely we could have picked somebody playing in the NRL more regularly

[Super Cronk]

Lillyman? Surely there is better players then jacob.

[DIEHARD]

Oh boy...Im sorry to see Carroll out. Our backs are to the wall now.

Shock call up.

[Dakink]

WTF!!

Talk about a pick from the clouds - havent again watched close enough to comment - though Vautin did alright with his team of no-bodies back when...

[[BroncosGirl]]

Wow, another totally unexpected call-up. Im a-ok with the Mogg one now, I see the reasoning behind it. But I dont see the reason behind this one? Surely there is better playes?!

[Teegy]

i thought either Scott, Stagg or Corey Parker would have been called up. atleast they have some experiance at SOO level. and alot more NRL experiance aswell

[Dakink]

Parker is out for a week isnt he?

[[BroncosGirl]]

Parker is out for a week isnt he?

Well he's been named in this weeks Brisbane side, so atm no.

[Gonzalez]

One word: WTF!!!!


Wow, thats a huge shock!!

[Kallan]

Lillyman? Bad move by the selectors, I wouldn't have had his name even in contention..... Hope he proves be wrong

[Teegy]

SMH

Captain Darren Lockyer has put up his hand and accepted blame for Queensland's 17-16 opening State of Origin rugby league loss.

Lockyer vowed Wednesday to use the disappointment of the Sydney game to motivate himself for Wednesday night's return bout at Suncorp Stadium which Queensland must win to avert a fourth straight series loss.

Queensland's preparations were in again disrupted on Wednesday with selectors calling up Cowboys forward Jacob Lillyman to replace Tonie Carroll who'll undergo knee surgery on Thursday.

Twenty four hours after Adam Who?, it was Jacob Who?

If Adam Mogg's call up on Tuesday to replace injured Greg Inglis wasn't a big enough shock, Lillyman made it a bolters double today.

With teenage Storm sensation Inglis (back), Carroll (knee) both ruled out and centre Justin Hodges (hamstring) yet to be cleared, Queensland today blew from $1.70 to $2.10 in the betting as the two newcomers filed into camp.

With further inexperience added to an already raw Maroons side, Lockyer turned the heat up on himself, admitting he felt largely responsible for the Sydney loss where he led a very inexperienced side.

"I learned a lot," said Lockyer, whose own form was criticised after that game, even though he led his team back from 14-0 down to get within a point.

"I was disappointed after the game in the way the team played but I felt a lot of that was probably because of me.

"I accept the criticism and it was justified."

Privately Lockyer takes such losses harder than most because of the leadership responsibility he holds.

Outwardly it usually doesn't show, but the criticism of Queensland's performance more than his own, cut deep.

He rebounded from the Origin match with a fine performance for Brisbane against the Bulldogs.

He's well aware some critics are asking why he can't show the same dominance in a maroon jumper for Queensland.

"That will be driving me this week," admitted the 22-game Origin veteran.

"I feel that way myself.

"I would have liked to have played as well for Queensland as I have at club level.

"It wasn't to be in the first game and obviously I've asked a lot of questions about myself since.

"That's just me. I was asking those questions before they were written in the paper after the game.

"I could have played better and I could have led the team a little better."

Lockyer said he often went over split-second decisions he made during games and the Origin was no different.

"Whenever you lose a tight game the `what if' questions are always there," he said.

"I didn't sleep real well after the game, I can tell you.

"I look at back at a few things that I could have done better.

Queensland can't get much more backs-to-the-wall than being 1-0 down, facing an unprecedented fourth straight series loss and making two stunning selections in 24 hours.

But traditionally that's the way they like it.

"People are probably going to be writing us off as some already have.

"We need to use that as a motivation."

[[BroncosGirl]]

He shouldnt blame just himself, but hey if that motivates him, then thats his choice :)!

[Gonzalez]

Gooooo NSW

[RIP]

He's tuff as nails & tackles good. My opinion is he'll go alright & grow so much from it

[Super Cronk]

No 1 player is to blame for the loss. Yes Lockyer didnt play to his best ability but not many did that night.

[RIP]

Will he be on the run on side or on the bench?

[Gonzalez]

Will he be on the run on side or on the bench?
On the bench, i believe.

[DeeGan]

:roll: I am not sure what is going on here - out with the old, in with the new.

Jacob Lillyman has played 18 career first grade games and only 3 games in 2006 yet is now a State of Origin calibre backrower! Am I missing something?

Tonie Carroll is a big loss though in his place I would picked from; Corey Parker, David Stagg or Kirk Reynoldson as a bolter.

I will support the selectors and big Mal again here, though I am left scratching my head on this one even more so than the Mogg selection.

[DeeGan]

Lockyer was disappointing though still came up with a couple of try assists in the second half - he doesn't need to putting his hand up taking the blame for the loss. Our forwards were inept in the first half where we lost the game up front. I have said 1000 times, no half or five-eight can dominate a game (especially at Origin level) with no go forward.

[qld power]

pouts no inglis or carrol shakes head :disgust:

[[BroncosGirl]]

Yea I would have picked Corey Parker, but I guess we'll see how it goes.!

[Coaster]

gone beyond a joke for me.

I will support them and barrack for them, but i dont hold the passion for this game like i have every other SOO ever played.

Parker, Stagg, Jenson, Renoldson, Thorn, Has Harrison been suspended yet? why not another big fella, christ we are playing without a halfback, the tempo will be slow again, pick Tronc.

I still dont think Hodges will play, so who would they replace him with? Covell?

Bah

[[BroncosGirl]]

gone beyond a joke for me.

I will support them and barrack for them, but i dont hold the passion for this game like i have every other SOO ever played.

Parker, Stagg, Jenson, Renoldson, Thorn, Has Harrison been suspended yet? why not another big fella, christ we are playing without a halfback, the tempo will be slow again, pick Tronc.

I still dont think Hodges will play, so who would they replace him with? Covell?

Bah

Im hoping for Hodges to play, itd just be rubbing salt into the wounds if he got ruled out!! :(

[DeeGan]

Queensland fans need to rally here, whilst we are not going to always agree with the selectors, we have to (this sounds corny) believe in the maroon jumper and the players who will be representing our once dominant state. I still have faith in the boys lining up against the Blues, I ask you all to think back to 1995 and the Fatty led maroons who did the unthinkable that year!

Keep the faith guys and girls! We are at home, we have some talent in this team who will not go down without a fight :D

The last thing New South Welshmen need is seeing signs of weakness from the supporter base ;)

[Steelers]

DeeGan is right... QLD need more support than ever... COME ON BOYS... PROVE THE NSWmen WRONG!

[Teegy]

in the words of the great Billy Moore

QUEENSLANDER
QUEENSLANDER
QUEENSLANDER
QUEENSLANDER

[[BroncosGirl]]

Queensland fans need to rally here, whilst we are not going to always agree with the selectors, we have to (this sounds corny) believe in the maroon jumper and the players who will be representing our once dominant state. I still have faith in the boys lining up against the Blues, I ask you all to think back to 1995 and the Fatty led maroons who did the unthinkable that year!

Keep the faith guys and girls! We are at home, we have some talent in this team who will not go down without a fight :D

The last thing New South Welshmen need is seeing signs of weakness from the supporter base ;)

Oh I still have faith, I always have faith :) I believe everyone who is selcted will go out there and do theri job and make us proud :)
*sings* coz you gotta have faith faith faith *

[Chaos]

Sorry fellas,

I've been a QLD loyal fan for a long time but you can count me out this series.
I don't respect the decisions the selectors have made and I don't respect the team they have chosen.

Lockyer and Thurston will have to both play the game of their lives for QLD to even come close to winning this one.

Have fun but I'm afraid you will be disappointed.

[Queenslander]

Sorry fellas,

I've been a QLD loyal fan for a long time but you can count me out this series.
I don't respect the decisions the selectors have made and I don't respect the team they have chosen.

Lockyer and Thurston will have to both play the game of their lives for QLD to even come close to winning this one.

Have fun but I'm afraid you will be disappointed.

Sad to hear a Queensland "loyal" fan can easily be swayed like this :nope:

[DIEHARD]

Sorry fellas,

I've been a QLD loyal fan for a long time but you can count me out this series.
I don't respect the decisions the selectors have made and I don't respect the team they have chosen.

Lockyer and Thurston will have to both play the game of their lives for QLD to even come close to winning this one.

Have fun but I'm afraid you will be disappointed.

Real Queenslanders never give up. :box:

[Eel 33]

A field goal stopped us winning game one, that team was full of debutants. 2 more here wont make much of a difference. Nothing will stop us winning game 2 @ home.

[Teegy]

well i guess you can take the loyal out of that. thats not loyalty. you dont give up on your team :disgust:

[Teegy]

SMH

QUEENSLAND coach Mal Meninga has erupted as the Maroons gear up to try to keep alive the State of Origin series, losing his temper with radio interviewers and telling a media conference he was "sick to death of people giving us advice".

Meninga is either feeling the pressure of being 1-0 down in the three-match series or he has decided verbal aggression is needed, so he has "gone on the front foot" in the lead-up to Origin II at Suncorp Stadium next Wednesday. His outburst came as the Maroons were forced to make a second change because of injury to the team that was named on Monday to meet NSW.

Second-rower Tonie Carroll has been ruled out and replaced in the squad by North Queensland's Jacob Lillyman, who will play off the interchange bench. Nate Myles has been elevated to the starting side.

Winger Greg Inglis had earlier dropped out, replaced by Canberra's Adam Mogg.

"I'm stirred up that nobody gives us a chance," Meninga told the media conference in Brisbane. "I'm stirred up by the fact they say we should have picked players in this position and not that position.

"I'm stirred up that they say our forwards were too small, that we were bashed up in the first game and we should have lost by 20 points. We should just enjoy the week, get on the grog and have a good time."

Yesterday morning, in a radio interview on 2KY that was taped on Tuesday, Meninga clashed with hosts Richard Freedman and Terry Kennedy.

Asked by Kennedy if he had talked to Queensland five-eighth and captain Darren Lockyer about him possibly moving to fullback, Meninga replied: "I had a yarn to Darren about a lot of things and fullback certainly wasn't one of them."

Pressed, Meninga contradicted himself: "I asked him about fullback and what his thoughts were and, you know, we left it at that." Asked what Lockyer had said, Meninga replied: "Why do I have to tell youse guys for?" Asked if Lockyer had refused to play there, Meninga said: "Is this the whole crux of the conversation or are you going to get on with something else?"

Meninga had a laugh after that but, when Freedman asked him about the "small forwards in the pack", the Maroons coach exploded. "Mate, I'll tell you, right, youse guys … we're no chance of winning," he said. "What's the point in me talking about Origin, trying to talk our team up, when you think we're no chance?

"Honestly, leave me alone. We've got a really good side that's going to go out on Suncorp Stadium on June 14 and they're going to play their butts off."

Meninga stuck firm in his support of the forwards, adding: "I believe in them. Not many people do, but I do."

Lillyman has not played much football this season because of injury but Meninga said he had confidence in his ability to play a decent chunk of game time. "We've got no concerns with him," he said. "We talked to the Cowboys' internal staff. He's got a good motor in him and he can go the distance."

Lillyman's inclusion for his Origin debut rates as one of the biggest selection shocks in years, even for a team that used seven rookies in the first game, won 17-16 by NSW.

Blues star Nathan Hindmarsh, after being told of Carroll's withdrawal and Lillyman's selection at a NSW media conference yesterday, was embarrassed that he could not recall which club Lillyman was from. Blues and Cowboys coach Graham Murray said he had heard Lillyman was in the frame for possible selection. "He's a good player and it's a great reward," Murray said. "He's got tremendous footwork and he gives plenty whenever he goes on the field. He won't be a risk. He's a handy player."

Former NSW hard man Mark Geyer said he was surprised by Lillyman's inclusion, but he warned the Blues not to be smug.

"I thought that, in a game they must win, they would have gone for a more experienced player, like Brad Thorn or Corey Parker," he said. "But as soon as you start questioning whether Queensland have got the right side, you risk them biting you on the arse."

[Chaos]

well i guess you can take the loyal out of that. thats not loyalty. you dont give up on your team :disgust:

How do you be loyal to a team you don't respect and have no control over?

[[BroncosGirl]]

How do you be loyal to a team you don't respect and have no control over?

You dont respect, why not? Thats a little harsh. No matter who is in the tema, I will respect them because they've been chosen to represent their state and i know they'll have pride in that, so hence i will have pride in them and supporting htem.

If you dont respect them, fine, dont support them, but that always means if we win, it shouldnt matter to you ;)

[Chaos]

Broncosgirl,

I respect the individual players themselves as they have all acheived great things but I believe we could have chosen a much better team

Our coach and selectors should give us the best chance of winning but I think they have let us down.

If I am wrong...you can all give it to me, as I will have deserved it.

[Super Cronk]

Broncosgirl,

I respect the individual players themselves as they have all acheived great things but I believe we could have chosen a much better team

Our coach and selectors should give us the best chance of winning but I think they have let us down.

If I am wrong...you can all give it to me, as I will have deserved it.

I agree where your coming from.

I copped it before the test because i said NZ were going to win. I thought the aussie selectors could have chosen a better side...and i feel the past few years the selectors and coach have made silly decisions.

Doesnt mean you are any less of a supporter or letting your country or state down....you have a right to voice your opinion if you dont agree with something at your club or a rep team you support.

I dare anyone on this forum to not complain if their NRL team's management chose out of form or if they didnt choose the best player for the job (im not saying thats what QLD have done here btw) and if it happened for a few years in a row i think anyone would voice their anger at the selections, but deep down we all know you love your state and the team...everyone does but we can voice negative thoughts too.

[Chaos]

Thanks Supercronk,

I didn't expect that kind of support.
However I did say that I was going to put some bets against Queensland so I do deserve some kind of bashing.

Deep down, I hope I'm wrong and can then learn something from it.

If I'm right and NSW win by 42 points...I wont have anything to say.

[[BroncosGirl]]

Broncosgirl,

I respect the individual players themselves as they have all acheived great things but I believe we could have chosen a much better team

Our coach and selectors should give us the best chance of winning but I think they have let us down.

If I am wrong...you can all give it to me, as I will have deserved it.

Nah mate, Im not aiming to give you anything, I was just saying my part. I understand where your coming from, alot of my mates have done the same thing, and gotten an earful from me ;)

I dont always agree with selections, but i figured they are wearing the maroon jersey, and I support the maroons, so i support them. I will always support the team.

Maybe not the selectors :p, but the team ;)!

And SuperCronk, yea i question Broncos selections at times, and I get fustrated by them at times, but ALWAYS support them. Ill never quit my team.

I guess the thing that really got me, was when Chaos said "you can count me out of this series"

Imo, a true supporter supports their team through thick and thin, good bad, etc etc, you can't just pick and choose when to support them. Thats just my opinion though.

[Chaos]

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I guess the thing that really got me, was when Chaos said "you can count me out of this series"
.

Broncosgirl,

Your right, that is the comment that deserves the most bagging...I doubted my own loyalty after I quoted that.

[Teegy]

']Imo, a true supporter supports their team through thick and thin, good bad, etc etc, you can't just pick and choose when to support them. Thats just my opinion though.

exactly right. you dont give up on your team IMO. i never have and never will but thats just me.

[Super Cronk]

Seriously...if its one thing i hate the most its other supporters saying they are better then other supporters.

Choas isnt quitting his team...he hasnt stopped supporting them forever....he said that he thinks they will lose the series, You have never questined the broncos before a game? and thought maybe we wont win this game. Or do you go into every game kidding yourself and think that the broncos are unstoppable?

I dont see anything in that...but thats me, if that means im not as true a supporter as you so be it.

[Hoppy2007Dragons]

Ive wathced a few queensland cup games lately, and although i'm a NSW supporter, lillyman has only a handfull of games this year and in his career, but in those queensland cup games he fires up and plays so well, i think he will go very well off the bench, probably more likely because he knows this might be his one and only apperance and will do all he can to cement his place in the 3rd game and future series, he plays with this attitude in the queensland cup in trying to find a place in the cowboys lineup and battle injury. GO THE BLUES

[[BroncosGirl]]

Seriously...if its one thing i hate the most its other supporters saying they are better then other supporters.

Choas isnt quitting his team...he hasnt stopped supporting them forever....he said that he thinks they will lose the series, You have never questined the broncos before a game? and thought maybe we wont win this game. Or do you go into every game kidding yourself and think that the broncos are unstoppable?

I dont see anything in that...but thats me, if that means im not as true a supporter as you so be it.

No one is saying they are better. So dont get on your high horse either. :ok:

Like I said the quote that really irked me was when he said "you can count me out of this series" - thats quitting your team for this year, you dont pick and choose when to support them, you support them forever. If hehad simply just said I think they'll lose, but Ill still support them , thats fine. I sometimes think the BRoncos will lose (aka this weekend :() - but one thing I dont do is say "guys, you can count me out of this game - you know what ILl suport the BRoncos next week when I think theyll win". Thats a little different ;)!

I was just saying my opinion, dont put words in my mouth that I said I was any better. Because seriously ... if theres one thing I hate the most is people claiming I said something. :p

[Teegy]

SMH

The odd couple of Queensland's forward pack hope to make a perfect fit against NSW in their must-win State of Origin II rugby league clash at Brisbane.

Maroons youngster Nate Myles has adopted a very different approach to second row partner Carl Webb after the Queensland forwards held a brain-storming session on how to stop the rampaging Blues pack.

In contrast to Webb's explosive style, Myles wants to grind a NSW pack including his Bulldogs NRL teammates Willie Mason and Mark O'Meley into the ground early at next Wednesday's Origin II.

Webb has been urged by experts such as ex-Test prop Robbie Kearns to "get mental" against NSW - but Cairns-born Myles has adopted a more common sense, but no less effective, method.

"It's easy to say that (get mental) but in our game now you can't go out and try and rip people's heads off," he said.

"You'll be spending two months on the sidelines (due to suspension) and the next six weeks on the bench.

"You've got to come out with controlled aggression and we feel we've got that in our side - we've got a good mix in our pack."

While admitting Webb's aggression - typified by his infamous 2005 Origin I stoush with NSW prop Luke Bailey - was important, he urged teammates not to go over the top.

"Those things (Webb's aggression) can turn a game in your favour but as long as it is controlled and it is not silly," he said.

Myles, 20, will make his starting Origin debut in only his second game for Queensland after impressing off the bench in the Maroons' series opening 17-16 loss.

Myles modestly said he was "lucky" to be playing in Origin II.

But the 188cm, 104kg Myles is seen as a key to the Queensland forwards' fightback against a NSW pack that dominated Origin I.

As a club teammate of Mason and O'Meley, Myles is in the best position to know the best way to stop the Blues bruisers.

But providing inside knowledge is one thing - toppling the NSW giants is another.

"It's always going to be tough to stop big Willie and Mark," Myles said.

"He likes to run off the back of quick play-the-balls. But if we can get into their face in the first 20 minutes and tackle low, he will be easier to handle.

"We've just got to match them in the first 20. It will be tough but we are looking forward to the challenge."

Myles has copped plenty from the NSW pair at Canterbury training in the Origin II countdown.

"There is a bit of banter at training but the talk has got to be done on the field - we've got to fight back in game two," he said.

Myles wants more fond memories - well, any memories - from Origin II.

"My first Origin all happened so quick. I don't have many memories," he said.

"I'm lucky to be honest (to play in Origin II). No one wants to be cut from Origin.

"I'm sure the boys who experienced that (first game) will be more determined than ever to get back in - I've got to make sure I do my job."

Meanwhile, Webb admitted there was "a fair bit of pressure" on the Queensland forwards in Origin II.

"It (game one) hurt a bit for us, to lose that way. They rolled over us with big Willie and O'Meley - we don't need any extra encouragement," he said.

[TitanBronco]

I believe they should have Ashley Harrison at Lock instead of Johnson. The maroons need to be more agressive in defense, the big fellas need to rip into Mason & O'Meley.

[BRONCOS FAN]

Yeah its time we get back at those NSW boys. I meanwe have a better side this time and we are going to kick... Qld get pumped up their and it gets the crowed going.

[Queenslander]

Blues call up Cooper
June 11, 2006

ST George Illawarra centre Matt Cooper was today called into the New South Wales State of Origin squad as an 18th man.

Cooper, named in the Origin I side but forced to miss the game due to injury, will travel with the Blues to Brisbane later today having served his one-match suspension during the Dragons's 20-10 win over Penrith last night.

Parramatta's Eric Grothe replaced Cooper for the Origin I battle and produced a fine display on the wing to retain his spot in the side for game two on Wednesday.

The Eels flyer has been struggling with flu but has been able to train with the team.

AAP

[Teegy]

i hope coops doesnt play cause i hate cheering against him

[BRONCOS FAN]

Yeah, the only thing Qld has done wrong, is their picking to many young players not the exprenced ones. And i also think that jacob will have to fill big shoes in origin 2...

[Manly Boy]

This will be a big, tough game for the North Queensland forward, filling the boots of big Tonnie Carrol, but he is playing very well and is an in form player, yeah i agree that qld have alot of inexperienced younger players but in the end it will help them to beat nsw in the future if you really think about it...

[Manly Boy]

I think it will be an awesome game and i think that qld will have a comfortable win. They lacked aggression in the first game which hepled nsw out but at home, i think it will be a different story. For what it's worth i'm a blue so, GO NSW!!!

[TitanBronco]

I'm yet to see Jacob play. From what i've heard he's a big hitter. We need someone like that in the side. Johnson is a supposed big hitter but im yet to see that. I thought he was ordinary in the first game.

[Teegy]

Why do past players always want to put their opinions in?

id love to ask Benny how good NSW are if QLD win

Former NSW hooker Benny Elias has given a scathing appraisal of the Queensland State of Origin team, claiming the Maroons would get 'smacked' by a second-choice Blues line-up.

Elias, a veteran of 19 interstate clashes, said NSW had become so dominant Darren Lockyer and Johnathan Thurston would be the only Queenslanders that could make the Blues squad.

"You could pick a NSW II side that could beat that side," Elias said.

"I feel sorry for (coach) Mal Meninga, he has been handed a very ordinary Queensland State of Origin side.

"It's not his fault and he's doing the best he can with what he's got.

"If you had to ask him off the record who he'd rather be coaching, when it comes to players, it would be a knockout decision (for NSW).

"I would be surprised if on game day bookies would even be taking bets on Queensland, that's how one-sided things have become.

"I haven't even heard of (Maroons forward Jacob Lillyman) and I don't think most rugby league supporters have either.

"You could pick another side that could smack them again.

"Only their halves could make the NSW side."

Elias feared the interstate series was turning into "just another NRL game" because of the disparity between the sides and the lack of aggression in recent encounters.

The former Test rake called on Queensland forwards - dubbed "cream puffs" by his former teammate Gary Jack - to try to nullify the gulf in talent by bringing back the biff.

"We used to know in the early '80s and 90's the first scrum would be an all-in," Elias said.

"While the officials say they deplore violence, all the highlights, they show are the fisticuffs - they show Wally Lewis and Mark Geyer, they show Elias v (Steve) Walters.

"(Queensland) need to do something out of the ordinary ... maybe Mal will tell them to show how much of a cream puff they are and really test the limits of the rules.

"It's not as if a referee is going to send anyone off.

"Carl Webb isn't going to be sent off for throwing a few lefts and rights at Willie Mason.

"If I was Mal, I'd take a leaf out of the good old days.

"They are getting smacked, they have nothing to lose.

"(But) I think they will get steamrolled anyway."

The Balmain legend agreed with Meninga's assertion the traditional rivalry would lose its lustre should the Blues win an unprecedented fourth straight series, and called for a committee to be formed to try to lift the contest back to its glory days of the 1980s and '90s.

"If NSW gets off to a quick start, everyone will turn their TV off," he said.

"It's such a shame, the reality of life is we may have lost the shine and the unpredictability of State of Origin football.

"It had everything, from excitement, to glamour, to one-on-one confrontations - it had it all.

"I love Origin, I would hate to think it could dwindle off.

"I almost would like to see Queensland win."

[Titanium_BD1103]

Ah Teegy... relaxed its just Benny trying to fire up NSW... he always does it and frankly he knows better... he is just someone who knows how to put the boot in... in all honesty I reckon he thinks QLD have some chance if he is doing it... ;)

[Teegy]

Ah Teegy... relaxed its just Benny trying to fire up NSW... he always does it and frankly he knows better... he is just someone who knows how to put the boot in... in all honesty I reckon he thinks QLD have some chance if he is doing it... ;)
i think it fires up the QLDers more than NSW boys

[Teegy]

SMH

NSW captain Danny Buderus said he and his teammates weren't getting the credit they deserved for their recent interstate domination, as Queensland greats Wally Lewis and Shane Webcke hit back at doomsayers of the Maroons team and the Origin concept.

With NSW on the eve of a record four consecutive series wins in tomorrow night's match at Suncorp Stadium, the Maroons have come in for unprecedented criticism from within their own ranks after losing last month's opening game.

Maroons coach Mal Meninga declared before the 17-16 loss at Telstra Stadium that the future of Origin was under threat if the Blues won and a mood of pessimism is evident north of the border as Queensland icons such as Wayne Bennett and Greg Dowling openly question team selections and the merits of players.

But Webcke slammed the previously little-known trend of Queenslanders turning on their own and called for former players to butt out of the debate.

"It's not for every man and his dog to have an opinion," Webcke told the Herald. "There are too many broadsides, particularly from ex-players. Just because you've played Origin doesn't give you a right of passage to criticise.

"It annoys me - 'they're soft, they're this, they're that'. Every one of those players plays NRL - by definition they are not soft and you are not suddenly a mob of soft bastards who can't play.

"It's a knee-jerk reaction and it really, really annoys me. I'm not saying they are protected species but it should be well-rounded, well-thought-out critiques.

"To say they will never ever win another game of football is quite ridiculous."

Lewis added: "There's no rule against people coming out and expressing their opinions but it's Mal's team and I think he has got a right to be upset. I thought they played pretty well in the first game and people have got to realise they only lost by one point."

Brett Finch's last-gasp field goal put NSW one win ahead of Queensland in the 75 Origin matches played since the concept began in 1980, with two games drawn, while both states have held the shield 12 times.

But the Maroons have won just six of the past 21 interstate encounters - a fact Buderus believes is due more to the quality of the team initially developed under coach Phil Gould than the disintegration of Queensland.

"I think we have the nucleus of a great side and that's probably something that is not getting enough recognition," Buderus said. "The team we've been putting out the past few seasons, I think we have done a great job. There have been games where we've lost by a point and games where we have won by a point. It's always been very close.

"But I think when Gus came back four years ago he put a few things in place and we've gone along and won a few series. The team has been tremendous, we had a three- or four-year plan and it's all coming off for us. There were times where Queensland were probably seen to have a mortgage on passion in Origin and we wanted to change that and turn it around."

Both Buderus and NSW coach Graham Murray predicted the criticism will only serve to fire the Maroons up - but the latter admitted he had been stunned by the manner in which it had emerged.

"I don't think there's a person in the game who wasn't surprised because over the years Queenslanders have been pretty good at closing ranks and being supportive of their football team," Murray said. "I guess it just goes to show there's a bit of pressure on both sides."

Asked if he had any concerns about the future of Origin if NSW win again, Murray said: "I don't think Origin will ever die off."

Webcke was also confident that Origin would survive and questioned the motives of those making such dire predictions.

"I don't think Origin is under any threat," he said. "It would be healthy for Queensland to get on a roll but to lump all of that on these blokes is just not fair. This has been a couple of years in the making. If it is in jeopardy it is hardly their fault, it's wrong to place that pressure on them.

"And to say that Queensland is never going to win another series is a load of crap."

Lewis said the concept had survived when his Maroons side held the interstate trophy for the first five years from its inception.

"No one in NSW said it was bad for the game when we won from 1980 to 1984 so I've got no great fears for Origin. It's always going to survive," he said.

[Kallan]

The QLD forwards really need to step up tonight, ecspecialy the two front rowers Petro and Price.

[Dakink]

Good to see two of the best QLD has ever produced come to the teams defence.

Lewis is right - no one said boo when NSW was on the receiving end. QLD will bounce back. Though hopefully not for another thirty series or so.

[Titanium_BD1103]

The Blues are ready to win another series... and they are looking ominous coming into tonight.. ;)

From: www.foxsports.com.au

Blues to show no mercy
By Dean Ritchie
June 14, 2006

RUTHLESS NSW has vowed to show Queensland no mercy in Origin II tonight - fed up with talk that a Queensland win would be good for rugby league.

As Queensland's anxiety about tonight's vital game intensified, the Blues declared they could not care less that many fans want a series decider in Melbourne or the fact that State of Origin credibility is on the line with the Maroons facing a fourth straight series defeat.

"We have to drive the nail in," said NSW assistant coach and selector Laurie Daley.

"We've got to be ruthless."

Blues coach Graham Murray has called on his players to remember the pain that NSW suffered when the Wally Lewis-led Maroons dominated the series in the 1980s.

"We have no sympathy for Queensland. You only have to go back and remember the days when Queensland were dominant," he said.

Two-time premiership-winning coach Warren Ryan has been among many in the game to publicly state rugby league needs a Queensland win tonight at Suncorp Stadium.

"I may be wrong but I view the outcome of this game as important to the Origin concept itself, as it is to Queensland," Ryan said.

"For that reason, I hope we take a decider to Melbourne. C'mon Queensland, fire up."

The Blues held their final training session yesterday afternoon and are determined to complete a demolition job on the Maroons in Origin II.

NSW has had a settled build-up - unlike Origin I - with no player in any doubt for the match. St George Illawarra's Matt Cooper is the 18th man.

Rushed in as a last-minute replacement for Origin I, halfback Brett Finch said he was feeling confident for game two.

"It's been an enjoyable week running a few plays with the boys, getting confidence in the team and them getting confidence in me.

"I probably learnt a lesson out of that first game - not to get overawed too much.

"I think I play my best footy when I'm more relaxed."

There was mystery in the Queensland camp yesterday when North Queensland fullback Matt Bowen was drafted in as 18th man.

Bowen was a surprise face at the Maroons' final Origin training run, working with the team behind locked gates at Suncorp Stadium.

Queensland officials were quick to play down any late injury drama, saying Bowen had simply been brought into camp as extra cover.

"Everyone is fine. Matt has come in as our 18th man," said Maroons official Ben Ikin.

"He'll stay with the team and warm up (today) and then warm the bench."

But Bowen has almost certainly been called in because centre Justin Hodges has been under constant treatment for a suspect hamstring.

Coach Mal Meninga dismissed any concerns of a gamble playing Hodges three weeks after suffering a 4cm tear in his hamstring in the 17-16 Origin loss in Sydney last month. "Justin was ready to play on Friday. He's fine," said Meninga.

The Godfather of State of Origin, Dick Turner, called on Queensland last night to reclaim its "mongrel".

Origin's longest-serving team manager scoffed at suggestions the Origin spirit will die if Queensland loses an unprecedented fourth straight series.

"NSW are winning right now and we have to get back in the ballpark and play like we did in the early days of Origin," said Turner.

The Daily Telegraph

[Dakink]

Hehe

come on NSW - tear 'em a new .....

[Steelers]

Not long now...... :D:D:D:D:D:D

[Steelers]

Now that is an Origin reception........ GO QLD!

[Steelers]

PENALTY GOAL to QLD

2-0 early :D

[Steelers]

8 - 0 after 28 minutes after Carl Webb scores :D

[Steelers]

HODGES INTERCEPT TRY!!!!!!!!

12-0 kick to come!

kick converted

14 - 0!!!!

[Steelers]

14 - 0 at half time...... WHAT A PERFORMANCE BY THE QLD BOYS! COMPLETELY DOMINATED THE 1ST HALF! LETS HOPE THAT THEY KEEP IT UP AND SHOW THAT YOU DON'T NEED BIG NAMES TO WIN AN ORIGIN MATCH :D

[Steelers]

Adam Mogg finishes off a spectacular try

20 - 0

:D

[Steelers]

ADAM MOGG!!! SCORES IN THE CORNER!!! CALOUNDRA BoY SCORES 2 TRIES ON DEBUT!!!!!! 24-0 KICK TO COME!!!!! TAKE THAT YOU BLUES!!!!!

[s_s_s]

we have this one in the bag

[Steelers]

we have this one in the bag

We do now..... BERRIGAN SCORES UNDER THE POSTS! 30 - 0!!!!!!

:win: :win: :win: :win: :win:

[Steelers]

Tahu scores a late try for NSW... TOO LATE BOYS :laugh:

30 - 6

[s_s_s]

bring on game 3

[Teegy]

QUEENSLANDER
QUEENSLANDER
QUEENSLANDER

[Steelers]

FULL TIME

QLD 30 - 6 NSW

QUEENSLANDER!!!!!!

[Eel 33]

Feel a little shattered NSW, I don't care. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[Titanium_BD1103]

Well done to Queensland... much better game this game... and they showed why SOO is not dead.. :)

Well done to Adam Mogg what a debut and for Price and Civonceva for standing up to be counted... it was a great game all round by QLD.

Looking forward to Game 3... but without a 40,000 QLD parochial crowd... who will win??

[Super Cronk]

Wow....

Didnt expect that! The QLD forwards out muscled the NSW forwards all night.

NSW's halves were none existent! Finch and Anasta had nothing and altho Buderus was trying it wasnt enough.

Congrats to QLD...will make for a great game 3 down in Melbourne.

[Dragons]

Feel a little shattered NSW, I don't care. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
I wanted the blues to win, but then again everybody I know wanted it to be one all when they went to Melbourne. Well done Morons but let's rock and roll in three weeks time.

[Steelers]

QLD dominated all match, plain and simple... noone had a bad game :D

[Titanium_BD1103]

I think it is going to come down to some changes for Game 3... and this is what they are... ;)

- Young needs to come into the side
- Gasnier to 5/8th, Cooper to the Centres and Gower to Halfback... :)

That will do the trick and we should go better... we should never have gone in with Roosters players... THEY ARE IN POOR FORM...

As for the forwards... they did what they could... there was no support given from anyone of the playmakers.. so they had no chances... I think the forwards did the job needed, the playmakers were horrendously aweful..

[Titanium_BD1103]

QLD dominated all match, plain and simple... noone had a bad game :D

Steelers they played really well, but be warned here about getting over the top.. QLD played well, NSW PLAYED TERRIBLY... we could play 100% better than that... it was aweful... Finch and Anasta offered nothing and the QLD's didn't pressure them, it gave our forwards nothing... nothing... and to add that QLD then pressured the forwards.

BRING ON GAME 3... :D :D

[Titanium_BD1103]

Interesting point here....

Missed Tackles 29-28 for QLD
Line Breaks 3-2 to QLD

This game should have been close... but for these 2 statistics... which illustrate the poor quality of NSW even though QLD played really well.. ;)

[Teegy]

Interesting point here....

Missed Tackles 29-28 for QLD
Line Breaks 3-2 to QLD

This game should have been close... but for these 2 statistics... which illustrate the poor quality of NSW even though QLD played really well.. ;)
i wouldnt have thought that QLD missed so many tackles

[Titanium_BD1103]

Sorry didn't get to finish it... here is the rest of it and shows why QLD won... ;)

287 tackles to QLD, 341 tackles to NSW
13 errors to QLD, 19 to NSW...

NSW didn't play well tonight... we can play a lot better... but so can QLD.. BRING ON GAME 3... :D :D

[Queenslander]

What an easy win for the Queenslanders....Although it was helped by a very very very poor NSW team who were looking like stunned mullets scared by a capacity Suncorp Stadium. :lol!:


Bring on Game Three!

[Queenslander]

Sorry fellas,

I've been a QLD loyal fan for a long time but you can count me out this series.
I don't respect the decisions the selectors have made and I don't respect the team they have chosen.

Lockyer and Thurston will have to both play the game of their lives for QLD to even come close to winning this one.

Have fun but I'm afraid you will be disappointed.

Hopefully you are back as a loyal Queenslander after last nights performance. Perhaps you will think twice before you doubt a Queensland squad. ;)

[Steelers]

Sorry fellas,

I've been a QLD loyal fan for a long time but you can count me out this series.
I don't respect the decisions the selectors have made and I don't respect the team they have chosen.

Lockyer and Thurston will have to both play the game of their lives for QLD to even come close to winning this one.

Have fun but I'm afraid you will be disappointed.


Broncosgirl,

I respect the individual players themselves as they have all acheived great things but I believe we could have chosen a much better team

Our coach and selectors should give us the best chance of winning but I think they have let us down.

If I am wrong...you can all give it to me, as I will have deserved it.

Well looks like its time to start giving it to you....... nah you are a QLD supporter... just make sure you never sway away again :p

[Teegy]

Hopefully you are back as a loyal Queenslander after last nights performance. Perhaps you will think twice before you doubt a Queensland squad. ;)
i hope he is not. shows what happens when you dump your team. we dont need fans that only support us when we are winning

[[BroncosGirl]]

That was the best game EVER that I've been too!!! :win:

I ended up sitting in the crowd with my dads boss's clients sons, I had no idea who they were, but hey, they were qlder's, except one, who I had a lot of fun rubbing it in :p

THe WHOLE qld teams deserve applause, they were fantastic!!! All those times I said Locky should NOT be moved back to FB, that just made it all worth the while at all the arguments I had :p...

My heart sank though when I thought hodgo was innjured, i was praying he'd get up, and he did :) tough guy he is lol!!!!

NSW had nothing on us last night, nothing, we were too good in every department!!

I think we have it game 3, just because I know the boys will have something confident and also the fact its in Melbourne, so its not really much of an advantage to anybody. But we know we can do it, and if we head in with the sgame state of mind, we'll be right :)

BRING ON GAME 3!!!! :D:D:D!

[[BroncosGirl]]

Seeee chaos faith pays off :):) Just dont every doubt again :p

[BRONCOS FAN]

Hey guys im soooo happy Qld won the 2nd game. How much did they dominate the hole game. 30 - 6 thats a damn thrashing all right... I also loves the hits the Qld boys put on they were so pumped. I don't think they should make no changes. I reakon the've got the right team now.. And alot of thanks to the crowd, they put in so much energy in the game for the Qld boys..

[Manly Boy]

Yeah it was a good performance by the qld side. I think that Nate Myles and Civenocieva played extremely well and put on some great hits. The line speed in defence was brilliant and it shut down nsw and made them scramble when in possession of the ball. I think this will make the decider in melbourne a great game but i think qld will come away with a slight victory..

[Townsville Titan]

If Johns DOES play in the decider then count it as a NSW series winner. The maroons forwards were more dominating but we also lost in the middle. We saw in game 1 that we have the frowards for the challenge, But with the exception of Andrew Johns(The Legend), we'll win for sure.

[BRONCOS FAN]

Well if Queensland play like they did in the 2nd game they should go good...

[Chaos]

Hi eveyone,

I'm back from my holidays but expected to see more bagging from you guys.
I was wrong and all the loyal Queenslanders were right.

Queensland were awesome and didn't give NSW a chance.

I just want to know two things
Who taught Petro how to hit like that in tackles?
Who taught Lockyer how to tackle?

I'd have to say, the NSW halves were the worst pair of halves I have ever seen play in any Origin game.
Gus is gidding if he thinks he doesn't need to make changes there.

anyway...this is the first Titans page I have read since last week, so I'll go read some more.

[[BroncosGirl]]

I just want to know two things
Who taught Petro how to hit like that in tackles?
Who taught Lockyer how to tackle?
.

Didnt they say Gilly was in the camp or something, but yea they were tackling quite well, althou Petero has been doing that all season.

[Chaos]

That's the first time I have seen Petro hit with that much aggression

[[BroncosGirl]]

That's the first time I have seen Petro hit with that much aggression

Yea he certainly was fired up, but hey thats a great hting, I hope it carries into club games personally.

[Chaos]

Aggression was the one thing lacking in his game.
I don't think Bennett is the type to fire up his team, maybe he too has learnt from game 3

[Supergoose]

Lockyer's tackling effectiveness has been noticeable but I reckon Petero has been putting on hits like that for years but maybe not as consistently. Ask anyone of the numerous blokes who have broken arms and cheekbones from running into his head! he's as hard as nails but I have enjoyed his renewed vigour in defence of late. :clap: more :clap: more

[Supergoose]

Very pleasing to see some good old fashioned mungrel come out and the Maroons bash the NSWmen into submission like so many times in the past. It has been missing in the last couple of years and warmed the heart to see it back.

[BRONCOS FAN]

Tonie is back and hes going to be playing game 3 can't wait to see the hits he puts on...

[Manly Boy]

Yeah it will be good to see Caroll back in the action, but it will make it harder for a nsw victory...

[Poida]

name ur origin 2 highlights
oh where do i start.
all the tries.
we flogged em 30-6
peteros collision on omeley a beauty